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I am looking for someone who can help me fight these two sites in collecting winnings in which several hundred players were ripped off my e-mail is dealtaker@netzero.com i am new here so i needsomeone to help walk my through the right steps to get these sites to come clean PLEASE PASS THIS AROUND AND HELP ME ...........

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Many many thanks for the support zzangelzz I/we appreciate it.
Sadly though it will fall on deaf ears just like the pleas of innocence at that other famous witch hunt in Salem

zzangelzz said:
This is zzangelzz from beyondthefelt.org Im so disheartened how people can only see black and white and are so easy to attack the people they would be better off standing up with . Isnt it possible ithat these guys may be a victim just as we are? Let me answer that for you,,, YES!!!!!
I have sat back and done my research and see that this rip off site called IGS has scammed not only us but them too yet its very likely that they cant say anything to us that needs to be said because they are in a lawsuit.Well I am saying it cos someone needs to and by no direction from the guys on PYP either. I listened to my heart on this and feel they never had any desire to rip anyone off but a company they were involved with are responsible.This company started out called "futurebet" then changed their name to "IGS" and now last but not least they have changed it yet again to “GlobalGroupOnline”.Isnt this in itself a redflag that these guys just got a bad deal with some serious scammers? I think it is very likely.Someone correct me if I am wrong but I dont think so cos I am not on a mission to attack I am on a mission to get to the bottom and find out the truth so I can get my money owed but more importantly to me I want to see to it that BTF members get the money owed to them that I introduced to the PYP site..
I will continue my research and I WILLget to the bottom of it but I will not do it attacking people who may have had more of a loss and heart break then any of us. Once I do figure it all out I will fight for what is right.People are owed money and scammers shouldnt ever win in these cases. I want them prosecuted so they can never do this again to people.
Hi zzangelzz,

Welcome to the discussion. I am very sorry that you and your site have experienced what many of us and our players have. Its a hard blow to our communities so i feel for you.

I see your enthusiasm, and your caring approach and i find that refreshing and it shows how dedicated you are to your own community, and you obviously care about the well being of the industry.

Anytime you care to chat, do get in touch please!!!

Wishing you the best while we cross our fingers !

Steve
GFPC - Steve said:
Hi zzangelzz,

Welcome to the discussion. I am very sorry that you and your site have experienced what many of us and our players have. Its a hard blow to our communities so i feel for you.

I see your enthusiasm, and your caring approach and i find that refreshing and it shows how dedicated you are to your own community, and you obviously care about the well being of the industry.

Anytime you care to chat, do get in touch please!!!

Wishing you the best while we cross our fingers !

Steve

To be honest common sense should tell anyone with any smarts at all that these guys are not running with their tails between their legs it's the company itself that have changed their name to who knows how many diff ones and these guys are trying hard to simply stand up for themselves. Noone wants to listen and take into account if they were the ones responsible they would be off by now (with our money) on some vacation sipping drinks and calling us all chumps but NO thats not the case at all. I personally think you all should be ashamed of yourself for being so closed minded and unjust.
Steve thankyou for your comment back .Yes it is a tough one as I am the one that blogged about PYP to BTF members I happen to care about the BTF members so that makes it tougher. PYP was a fun site I enjoyed it these guys had the right idea unfortunately people were also involved that didnt care like I beleave they did.I have learned a valuable lesson in this as we should with all errors we make and that is to do my homework before introducing a new site and check out the gaming license ect.
To you Pomp and BD too. Keep your chin up there are alot of people that will "OPEN MINDLY" get to the bottom of this and it is my guess you will be redeamed.
Zzangelzz,

I respect your opinion on this issue as it seems to come from the heart.

What would you recommend we do as a community together now to try and help players get paid?

All the best

Steve
GFPC - Steve said:
Zzangelzz,

I respect your opinion on this issue as it seems to come from the heart.

What would you recommend we do as a community together now to try and help players get paid?

All the best

Steve



Steve I was just looking for a way to contact you. My yahoo is april_peerless@yahoo.com
zzangelzz said:
GFPC - Steve said:
Zzangelzz,

I respect your opinion on this issue as it seems to come from the heart.

What would you recommend we do as a community together now to try and help players get paid?

All the best

Steve



Steve I was just looking for a way to contact you. My yahoo is april_peerless@yahoo.com
hello Angel glad to see you are up to date with this as well hope things are going ok for you and peerless ...i really word like to see this resolved myself after all its been 3 months now all of us have been put on hold,but as far as ever having any feeling for ray at pimp your poker there will be none the guy truely handeled this in the wrong manner from the start , but we are past that now just wanna see the folks that have more information on this keep us informed and hopefully 1 day i will be able to collect with is owed to me and many others. i will not regret getting people to finally open there eyes to this with all the posts i have put out there ,cause without all this attention i would still be in the dark about all this...........which i beleive was intended from all these guys DEALTAKER
zzangelzz,

Unfortunately I do not use Yahoo but I do use msn so you can always add me. it would be an honor!

getfreepokercash@hotmail.com

Looking forward to chatting

Best

Steve
Dealtaker I have never forgoten about you or gunsmoke dispite what you both may have thought. Doesnt matter...
Im still down for the cause and have never let up on this. I simply want people to keep an opened mind untill some like ourselves finally get to the bottom of this.It doesnt need to be an attack fest till we know for sure who deserves it and who doesnt.I hope you will agree on this. As for how Ray handled it at times,,,, all I can say to that is we are all human and it would be tough to be under attack by so many but if he were a guilty party I don't beleave he would bother to try at all to stand up for himself.
Just my thoughts. ZZ

Steve I do not have have hotmail. :(
No worries Angel i think were good for our chat today.

I was also thinking we can all as a group have a conference call - SKYPE or MSN to discuss this between all parties. I will contact as many people as I can to get involved in this.

If we can all get together on a call and have an action plan it may help.

I have posted something about this on GPWA

http://www.gpwa.org/forum/my-story-big-daddys-casino-poker-room-180...

Still crossing my fingers for everyone!

Steve
Angel i do agree to a point in all this but there comes a time when someone avoids you enough you gotta start pushing buttons somewhere. as ray has stated i dont know all the facts thats the whole reason i started this thread on this forum. As i thought would happen i have open some eyes on this problem and in time the facts will come around. As far as my feeling for ray myself i think we all know how i feel, the red light was on from this matter long before it got this far (which i questioned him) and like he does banned me from his site so i wouldnt say anything to others. i strongly beleive the right people on this forum will get involved and get to the bottom of this, thats why i brought it here. its not always what you know its who you know. ray just thought he had another idiot on his site that would just let this die, he was deadly wrong !!!!!!!! DEALTAKER

GFPC - Steve said:
No worries Angel i think were good for our chat today.

I was also thinking we can all as a group have a conference call - SKYPE or MSN to discuss this between all parties. I will contact as many people as I can to get involved in this.

If we can all get together on a call and have an action plan it may help.

I have posted something about this on GPWA

http://www.gpwa.org/forum/my-story-big-daddys-casino-poker-room-180...

Still crossing my fingers for everyone!

Steve
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